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After the mobile library service closed down, members of the Dallington Old School village hall committee decided to start up a weekly community library cafe to fill the gap. (You can read more about this here https://dallington.org.uk/village-hall/)

Photo of 1921 loans book

A little while later, when clearing out a cupboard in the Snooker Room which had been badly affected by damp in the past due to an old leak in the ceiling, we found a small collection of books almost entirely covered in mould and some of which had also been nibbled by mice (or very large bookworms). We knew that the hall had once served as a Reading Room, and were delighted to find a small note book which had clearly been used to record book loans in 1921. I took it home to try to clean it up – a few days in the freezer to kill the mould spores, and a careful wipe with a cloth, and I was able to photograph all the pages to enable us to do some further research.

I was intending to give a talk for the Local History society about what I’d found out about the regular borrowers and what they were reading in 1921, but that was cancelled due to Covid. So as part of this year’s National Village Halls Week, which is celebrating 100 years of village halls, I thought I’d post a very short introduction to the Reading Room and what our forebears were reading 100 years ago. You can read it here

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Christopher Guy Tristram

Photograph shows preface to privately printed book "Letters from Christopher

For the first History Group meeting of 2020, Roy Iremonger spoke about the short life of Christopher Guy Tristram (1925-1943), his parents’ strong spiritualist beliefs and the private publication of letters supposedly dictated via ‘automatic writing’ to his mother from beyond the grave.

At the outbreak of war the family were living at Cox’s Mill, Dallington. His father was Major Guy Tristram R.A. and his mother, Ruth Marie Tristram a botanical illustrator. Christopher and his younger brother were sent to stay with an uncle in America, but after the uncle died, Christopher, now old enough to enlist, decided to return. He was drowned when the ship he was travelling on was sunk by German U-boats.

Roy offered a sympathetic account of the attraction of spiritualist beliefs to the bereaved parents, and set these within the context of the period following the First World War, when surprising numbers of people, including scientists, writers such as Arthur Conan Doyle, and even Air Force Marshall Lord Dowding (a friend of the family who wrote the foreword to “Letters from Christopher”) shared these beliefs.

You can read Roy’s notes with more information in this online document:

 

 

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PC Henderson

Here are some photographs of PC Angus Henderson and his family, kindly shared with us by one of his descendants. Angus Henderson was born in Scotland in 1873, but by 1898 was in Sussex, when he married Harriett Sherlock in Heathfield. They were in Rye at the time of the 1901 census, Chiddingly in 1911, with a growing family, and seems to have been based at the Police House (now Graylings) at Woods Corner, Dallington by 1915.

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Mr Peploe

Old photo

Photo of schoolchildren with Mr Peploe c.1910

Roy Iremonger gave the first History Group talk of the year, on the subject of Mr Peploe, the headmaster of Dallington School for many years. As usual, Roy was entertaining and informative.

William James Peploe was born 1859 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire and went to school in Wolverhampton where he became a pupil/teacher. In 1884, he and his sister Marianne came to Dallington in 1884 where both were to remain for the rest of their lives. Many years later he wrote his memoirs, from which Karen Bryant-Mole drew (in her book “Dallington, Six Miles from Everywhere”) for this description of their first 24 hours:

“He and his sister lodged with a Miss Gosling, although he did not say which Miss Gosling. He found his hostess and her home cold and inhospitable. Miss Gosling was a pious woman, with an unwelcoming demeanour and a fondness for lengthy prayers. When Mr Peploe and his sister came downstairs on their first evening Miss Gosling pronounced grace in a sepulchral voice, before showing them into a sitting room warmed by a fire containing a single stick of wood. At about 9pm a tray containing two bits of bread and cheese, two glasses and a bottle of water were brought in and the guests were gravely informed that supper was ready.” Mr Peploe was later to recall: ‘The thought of it makes me shudder to this day.’ They attended church the next morning. They were stared at as if they were “a pair of menagerie animals.” No one came forward to greet them or welcome them.  After a dinner of cold beef and cold potatoes they attended the afternoon service when, again, no one spoke to them. Mr Peploe described these first 24 hours as the most miserable of his life.”

Fortunately things seemed to have improved after that, and Mr Peploe went on to serve as head teacher at Dallington from 1884 until 1923 during which time he never took a day off with sickness. For most of that period, the School was located in what is now the village hall (though still known as the Old School) and it is hard to imagine the building having 78 children in the mixed department and 21 infant children in the adjoining room. A new school was eventually built further up The Street, opening  in January 1914 and Mr Peploe remained as head until his retirement in 1923. On his retirement he received a gold watch from his sporting friends; a gold chain from his school children and £61 from the parishioners. He died in October 1931.  He appears to have been a much admired if opinionated and sometimes interfering figure in the village life. You can find much more information and quotations from Mr Peploe and local residents and newpaper articles in Roy’s notes for the talk, which he has kindly allowed me to share here. Iremonger Mr Peploe talk March 2018

 

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TRILL

September 24, 2010  Harold Trill posted Hello Douglas. The Dallington Churchyard has two rows of Trills buried there plus others in the cemetery. I was at Dallington Tuesday 21st September with cousins and we wish to try and identify whom is buried where as the tombstones have deteriorated rapidly since I discovered my ancestors here.I may have met you some ten? years ago when I first visited and some one had just taken over the rather difficult task of working out the previous numbered graves. The gentleman I met was most helpful at the time. I hope to visit again around the 5th October 2010. Anything we can do to assist in getting the leaning stone secured in upright? Elizabeth Trill,leaning stone ,lived in THRUMS in the Street Do hope to hear from you. Regards, Harold Trill

  • September 4, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Helen “Hi, Go to the 3 cups pub at 3 cups cormer and you will find a man’s stone face in the entrance – a TRILL and also photos inside showing that the pub used to be owned by TRILL family. These are my father’s ancestors. Howard Trill.
  • December 4, 2013 at 8:41 am John Black Hello Harold Trill,
    This Man was my Great Grandfather on my mother’s side, perhaps we could contact each other if you want further information. black@jonks.co.uk.

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Extract from Wealden Iron: Series 1 Volume 9 1976 Internet edition http://www.wealdeniron.org.uk/BullSer1/1-09LR.PDF

“BRIGHTLING or GLAZIERS FORGE (& FURNACE?) TQ 651 213 Wealden Iron pp.301-2.
A long private road leads to this site from Dallington, and a number of houses are grouped around it. The one on the right, below the bay, is probably contemporary and if so is the iron-master’s house. The road from it to Glaziers Farm runs along the top of the bay which is c.60 yards long. It is now 4 feet high upstream and 10 feet on the downstream side, which is revetted with stone. The lawn running from the front of the probable ironmaster’s house to the stream has been made up with several feet of forge cinder which can be seen in section in the stream bank. It contains many forge bottoms, some of which have fallen into the stream. Among this debris is a small amount of glassy blast-furnace slag. This supports Straker’s idea that a blast furnace once existed here. The owner of Glaziers Farm has a cast iron half mould, said to be for making cannon balls. It does not seem, that in practice it could be used for this purpose, and it is more probable that it was used as a gauge for testing the shape and size of balls. It has a diameter of 51/2 inches. There are many minepits in the woodland E. of the road to the site. “

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Padgham

 January 4, 2013 Gregory Enoch Padgham wrote:
“Hello all, I left a message on the village local history page, but thought it might be more useful to comment here as well. I am looking for any information you might have regarding nearby Padgham Lane, Padgham Farm, Padgham Corner, etc.Thank you.”

  • Pauline Ridley replied January 4, 2013:
    “I hope someone here will be able to help you – but it doesn’t get much traffic so I will ask around locally. What kinds of information, and for which years, are you particularly interested in? If you don’t already know it, the book “Six miles from everywhere” may be helpful”
  • January 18, 2013 Gregory Enoch Padgham
    Thank you for responding to my inquiry. I am interested to know if anyone has any information regarding whether any persons by the name of Padgham still live on Padgham Lane, or in Dallington, as well as whether anyone knows how the lane came to acquire the name Padgham. I assume it may be the fact that there is a farm by the name of Padgham on the lane. I will also look to “Six Miles From Everywhere”.
  • January 19, 2013  pauline ridley:
    The lane was originally called Blue Kiln Lane (reference to a brick kiln that existed in the 18th century) but is now generally known as Padgham Lane after Padgham Farm – there are now several separate dwellings with this name at this location. The farm is referred to as Padgham Farm or just Padgham at least as far back as 1794, and originally formed part of the Herrings estate which seems to have passed to the Ashburnham estate early in the 19th century. If you go to the National Archives website and search for Padgham you’ll find various references to tenancy agreements etc ( the actual documents are held at East Sussex Record office in Lewes [Update 2018 now moved to The Keep http://www.thekeep.info/]).It may originally have been named for a family but if so they don’t appear to have lived in the village for at least 200 years. Most Padghams in the 1841-1911 census records come from Kent or the Kent Sussex borders – though Adelaide Jane Guest born in Dallington married James Padgham in Tonbridge in 1866, the family didn’t live here. The occupants of Padgham in this period are Wilmshurst(1841), Bishopp (1851), Wrenn (1861-81) and Burgess (1891-1911). Hope some of this is useful to you Best wishes Pauline”
  • Gregory Padgham: “Pauline, Your information was most helpful. My wife, daughter and I will make sure to come to Dallington when we visit England in a year or two. Padgham is a relatively rare name-most spellings differ from that exact spelling. I have family in England and will have to contact them to see what they know about Dallington. Thank you very much.Greg”
  • September 2016 Nigel Draper “Hi Pauline, I’m interested to see that you have Blue Kiln Lane as an earlier name for Padgham Lane. My father told me that the section of South Lane running from Cinder Hill Cottage to Downs Farm (and so past where my parents lived at Saltley Farm) was correctly called Blue Cow Lane which in turn was a corruption of Blue Kiln Lane. I believe he only learned this during their later years in Dallington and I don’t know the source or its accuracy.”

 

 

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YORK

From Julia Mackintosh (nee YORK) October 2011:
I have been tracing my YORK family tree for some time and have found that the family settled in Dallington for a number of years. The children of Thomas YORK (1659?) and Susannah Blackman are all mentioned in a tenement analysis of the village:
Thomas YORK (1697-1761) lived in Graylings stores in 1726,
John YORK (1699-1748) (my direct ancestor) lived at Christmas Farm in 1745. I think that he was a bricklayer.
Benjamin YORK (1706-1747) is listed as living at the Old Manor 1740, following his father Thomas.
Does anyone know of any information about the bricklaying trade in the village or of any other information about the York family? Or about any of these buildings – do they all exist today?
I would love to hear from you.Many thanks, Julia (jmackintosh@rabutler.essex.sch.uk)

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Haselden

April 2017 Francesca Haselden posted this message:

“I’m trying to find some more information about Haselden Farm. Haselden is my surname and my grandfather, though born in London, believes he had family in East Sussex. I stumbled upon Haselden Farm on Google Maps and am trying to see if I can tie it to my family history. Does anyone know if the farm at any point was occupied by a Haselden family? Or if it got the name from elsewhere? The only census I can find it mentioned in is 1861 where it is occupied by the Stapely family.”

April 21, 2017: reply from Arthur S. Haseltine “My name is Art Haseltine, I live in Springfield, MO. The Haselden’s who owned this place lost it in the 1630’s to someone working for King Charles I they were puritans during the English Civil War. One of them was a merchant adventurer who helped financethe Pilgrims in 1620. Two sons (Peter and Robert) came to Rawley, Mass in 1636. You can google and find where their farms were. Some of their descendants moved to Rockingham Vermont and are buried there. Over the years the names changed for some of their descendants to Haseltine. I descend from them. My great great grandfather Ira Haseltine founded the town of Richland Center, Wisconsin. Frank Lloyd Wright the architect was born in his home. Ira was a US Congressman a founder of the Abolition Party in Rippon Wisconin in 1854 and seconded Abraham Lincoln’s name in nomination for President at the Republican Convention in Chicago in 1859. He established orchards in Greene County Missouri after that was elected to Congress in 1880. Hope this helps your research. Good luck cousin!”

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Photo of Tom Norman/NoakesThe National Fairground and Circus Archive have a fascinating article (by Vanessa Toulmin?) about Thomas Noakes aka Tom Norman  “Tom Norman was born on 7 May 1860 in Dallington, Sussex and was the eldest of 17 children. His real name was Noakes and his father Thomas was a butcher who resided at the Manor House in Dallington. According to his autobiography he left home at the age of fourteen to seek fame and fortune on the road ” He later became notorious through his association with the Elephant Man, Joseph Merrick.  Here’s the link to the full article (highly recommended):

http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/history/shows/norman.html

There is also a Wikipedia entry with more references at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Norman

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